Transcription: Do you find too that this is becoming more of an intelligence problem than a science problem? It's always been an intelligence problem and it probably should be treated as an intelligence problem. I was taught a lesson once in the 70s, I mentioned that in the messages of deception, by someone who used to be in army intelligence in World War II and who told me he was retired and he said, look, you're approaching this the wrong way, you're approaching this as a scientist. And I said, well, I don't know how else to approach it. And he said, well, in science, if you get 95% of the data, you're hap ...
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